Eternally Insecure?

Eternally Insecure?

Eternally Insecure?

Are You Eternally Insecure?

Are You One of those Christians that are commited to insecurity all your life?

Does your voice shake when you talk?

Then here are some scriptures having to do with your place with Christ.

Watch out for those Jewish Wannabes that want to mix up verses having to do with the Jews in the Tribulation with the Body of Christ.

The Biblical teaching of Eternal Security doesn't excuse bad behaviour.

While, those that are eternally insecure say that one can lose their salvation, and should live in fear all their lives, the Eternal Security Folks should say that one that permanently falls away never was saved in the first place.

The ones that are eternally insecure typically mix up Israel in the Tribulation with the body of Christ.

He that endures to the end shall be saved. (Matthew 24)-Promise to Tribulation believers.

He that is saved, endures to the end.

Promise to the body of Christ.

9 Even though we speak like this, dear friends, we are confident of better things in your case--things that accompany salvation. 10 God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them. (Hebrews 6)

39 But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed, but of those who believe and are saved. (Hebrews 10)

12 If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. 14 If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. 15 If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames. (1 Corinthians 3)

Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. (1 John 2)

This should not be a dividing point, so if Christians want to be eternally insecure then let them.

"It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. 16 The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. 18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice" (Philippians 1)

"Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2 One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4 Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. 5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind." (Romans 14)

To be specific Paul here was talking to the Roman Christians about Jews or Jewish Wannabes that were still practicing Jewish customs and guidelines and were still 'weak in faith', thinking that these things somehow enhanced or maintained their relationship with Christ.

Paul said, that we should not argue with them but just be 'fully convinced in our own minds', because they haven't gotten to the point of understanding that a day is a day and all food is good for eating.

However, this is what Paul was fully convinced of:

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written: "For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered." 37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8)

10 For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! (Romans 5)

I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him for that day. (2 Timothy 1)

6 being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus. (Philippians 1)

Yet he did not waver through unbelief regarding the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, 21 being fully persuaded that God had power to do what he had promised. 22 This is why "it was credited to him as righteousness." (Romans 4)

Do you see what Paul is convinced of?

He is convinced of his security in Christ.

So why is the eternally insecure Christian insecure?

Because he or she is not 'persuaded' and 'convinced of what Paul and Abraham was here.

Because they are not convinced that God has the 'power to do what he had promised.' (Romans 4:21)

When God gave them eternal life, they thought he really meant six months life.

When the plain sense makes sense, they seek some other sense.

But if that is what it takes to motivate them to serve the Lord then so be it.

Some people may need a little Hell Fire and Brimstone but I serve the Lord from a grateful heart.

"Let Everyone Be Fully Convinced in his own mind."

Bj Maxwell

10/16/2006

In the beginning years of my Christian walk I believed in the eternal insecurity of the believer.

This was mainly due to the fact that I was being discipled by a Christian that believed the same.

Of course neither of us called it eternal insecurity at the time.

My favorite verses were where Jesus threatens to spue the Laodiceans out of this mouth. (Revelation 3) I thought that if you didn't have the fear of losing it, you might backslide.

However, a good baptist named Wally believed in the eternal security of the believer and he was on fire for God. Later on in Bible college i even learned of the French Heugenots that were calvinist missionaries but were very aggressive in their evangelism.

Well, believing that I could lose my salvation after crossing some imaginary line that I couldn't quite find couldn't possibly be how God wanted to motivate me in my walk.

One might argue that if you don't believe you can lose it you are going to live like a demon. However, the OSAS folks don't legitimately believe this. They will say that if you don't show some kind of fruit from your salvation then you never were saved in the first place.

9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and THINGS THAT ACCOMPANY SALVATION, though we thus speak. 10 For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. (Hebrews 6)

After becoming a dispie I realized that those that argue for eternal insecurity are inclined to use only scripture that is related to the Tribulation or the Jew or prior the finished work of Christ. What the apostle Paul says to us, completes what was said earlier and puts it into context, seeing he is the apostle to the Gentiles.

This is what he says about our salvation.

"Being CONFIDENT of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ" (Philippians 1:6)

Paul commends Abraham for being persuaded of some things as well.

"He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21 And BEING FULLY PERSUADED that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness." (Romans 4)

AND Speaking of Meat and Holy days.

"Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. 14 I know, and am PERSUADED BY THE LORD JESUS, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. (Romans 14)

Nothing can separate us from God's Love.

"For I am PERSUADED, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans 8:38)

AND "For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am PERSUADED that HE is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day." (2 Timothy 1:12)

This is the P in the calvinist acronym TULIP, which is the Perseverance of the Saints, which is really the P-erseverance of God. These verses make it clear that God is faithful and He will see us through.

I am not a Calvinist but believe the T and P of this Acronym, which are the T-otal Depravity of Man and the P-erseverance of God.

Those scriptures that refer to 'enduring to the end', are regarding those that are present during Jacob's Trouble. Sometimes Paul will give a scathing warning to Christians but then say, 'But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and THINGS THAT ACCOMPANY SALVATION, though we thus speak.' (Hebrews 6)

Which is like saying, You better not, but I know you won't because of who I created you to be.. Or He that endures to the end will be saved and you will endure to the end.

It is important to see that books like Romans, Acts, Hebrews and the Gospels were leading up to a point and if you quote the first part of these books and don't see the transition, then you are not getting the Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrest of the Story.

You may only be getting what was said to the Jews at the beginning or in the end.