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Christianity Under Fire

If the Plain Sense Makes Sense: Christ's Coming
Study In Acts
Jesus In Genesis
Behemoth, Leviathan And Dragons, Oh My!
The Foolish Man's Guide To Confounding The Wise
A Defense of Individual Election unto Salvation & Critique of Absolute Corporate Election?
Group Think Or Whosoever Will Pt. 3
Paul's Purpose At Athens: Becoming All Things To All People
Personhood And Free Will
Scriptures Calvinist's Misinterpret
Resistance Is Futile!
You're a Hopeless Replacement Theologian If You:
Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth
You Know You're a Preterist if: Part 2
Are You Thankful For What You Have?
Top Ten Signs You Are a Fundamentalist Christian?
Getting Involved With Coffeehouse Ministry
A Few of My Projects
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A Year in the Life
Maxwell's Musings
Is the Church, 'The Elect'?
Pope Apologizes For Telling the Truth
Catholic Catechism Paves the Way For Evolution
You Are A Hopeless Liberal If You:
Clean Slate
Three Column Chart
Ultra Dispensationalism: Scriptural or Not?
Group Think or Whosoever Will?
Chronological Chart of New Testament
You Might Be A Closet Dispie If:
Body of Christ versus Israel
The Mark of the Beast: Is it Literal?
You Know You're A Preterist If:
You Know You're a Preterist if: Part Three
The Comings of Christ: The How, When and Where
Groupthink and Cliques in the Church
Focus on the Family or on God
Cult Aware
Open Door Fellowship OR Come As We Are Ministries?
Transubstantiation or Unsubstantiated: If The Plain Sense Makes Sense...
DaVinci Code: Was Christ's Divinity and the Bible invented at the Council of Nicea?
Plain Sense Interpretation/P'shat: Christs Comings
Isaiah 53: Human Sacrifice?
Isaiah 53: Christ Has Risen!!
Who Hath Believed Our Report?
Isaiah 53: Christ Our Passover Lamb
Isaiah 53: Messianic Prophecies Refuted?
Chart comparing Israel to Messiah
Isaiah 53: The Suffering Messiah
Bible Chart: Does the Bible conflict on Salvation Messages?
Christs Coming and Time Gaps
Got Charts!
Are There Two Programs?
When Did the Church Begin?
When Did the Church Begin Pt. 2
Is America Cursed?
How and Why Christianity is Under Fire
Was Mary a Perpetual Virgin?
Tribulation or Jacob's Trouble?
Jewish Wannabes and the Holidays
Christmas Under Fire: When Christians Attack
Is Celebrating Christmas Scriptural?
Was Iraq a Just War?
Category 7: The End of the World
If It Believes, Then Waddles and Quacks like a Christian it is a....
Why Homosexuality Should Be Confronted and Exposed
The Doctrine Of Eternal Security-Can You Lose Your Salvation?
Does the Soul Sleep?
Did Jews Kill Jesus?...Hear What Some Jews Have to Say
Some Unscriptural Teachings of the Catholic Church
Arguments That Catholics Use
Pantribulationism: Are There Two Programs Going On?
Before and After
Pantribulationism: What A Day That Will Be!!!!
Definite Article Theology: The Way
Pantribulationism: Extrabiblical Nonsense
My Old Ship, the USS Shreveport Assisting Hurricane Victims
Pantribulationism: Should I Stay or Should I Go?
Trinity of God and Trichotomy of man: Definite Article Theology
Definite Article Theology
Pantribulationism: Blessed Hope and Glorious Appearing
Pantribulationism: The Departure
Pantribulationism: It will all pan out in the end
Straining Out Gnats, Majoring on the Minors
Jewish Wannabes and Eschaholics
When Jewish Wannabes Attack What They Don't Understand
How Jewish Wannabes Attack and How to Identify Them
Historical Method and Homosexuality
If the Plain Sense Makes Sense: Christ's Coming
If the Plain Sense Makes Sense: Evolution
The Silliness of Jack Chick
Inspirational and Patriotic Songs
Communism and Islam -vs- the Faith of America's Founding Fathers
Bridging the Generation Gap
Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth
Let's Worship the Lord
Faith Under Fire Television Show and Website
Faith Under Fire/Do We Worship the Same God?
Arrogant or Convinced?
Warning Signs of Dispensationalism?
Good News: How To Fight Terrorism
Prophecies Yet To Be Fulfilled: Zechariah 12:10-14
Are You Happy?
When Jewish Wannabes Attack the Bible
Why Jewish Wannabes Attack
The Masters List
You're A Hopeless ....
Preterism Versus Dispensationalism
What's Love Got To Do With It?
When Jewish Wannabes Attack!
Preterism and Calvinism?
Who Do Men Say That I Am?
Signs You Are Doing Something Right
Ivory Tower Theologians and more about me
Satan the Counterfeiter
Saved By Race or By Grace?
Wanna Know Some Secrets?
Distortions of the Resurrection
Apostles Today?
Message and Ministry of Paul compared to the twelve
Maxwell House...Good For Your Desktop
The Feminization of Christianity
Absurd World Views
Religion versus Relationship
The Mysteries Revealed
Replacement Theology
How did the Tribes and Books get Lost?
Catholics, Cliques and Cults
New Age Movement
Should Christians Observe the Sabbath?
The Power of One
Be Thankful
Group Think and the Jew
You Must Be Born Again!!
Tribute to a Friend
Who's That Babe in the Manger: Does it matter
President Bush and the Movie: Unbreakable
Having a Form of Godliness
The Natural Supernatural Connection
Spiritually Challenged Skeptics
Speaking or Praying to the Dead
Eternally Insecure?
The Preterist's False Hope
Apostolic Succession Catholic Style
Predestination or Free Will
The Foolish Confounding the Wise
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Scripture Twisting: The Figurative Fallacy
So Deep A Child Could Understand
The Apostle Paul
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Small Groups or the Purpose Driven Church?
Mile High Ministries or Miles Apart Ministries
The Omnipresence and Incarnation of God
Is Jesus the Messiah?
Extrabiblical Nonsense
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Is Baptism necessary for Salvation?
Focus on the Family?
Motherhood, Fatherhood or Discipleship?
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If the Plain Sense makes sense, seek no other sense to replace it, lest you end up with nonsense.

If the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense, to replace it, lest you end up with nonsense.

This is a modification of a formula that I have quoted in this  before.

I mention it again because many still don't get it.

It is not that the ones that still don't get it are stupid, it is
either they are 'wise in their own conceits', refuse to believe
the plain sense of scripture going to great lengths to avoid it or
they have decided beforehand what to believe before considering all of scripture regarding a particular subject.

My modification of the formula includes the words 'to replace it'
because, I'm not against a scripture having dual meanings, but IF the plain sense makes sense, then there is no reason to REPLACE IT with another sense.

For instance: If Christ says, 'Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye
gazing up into heaven? THIS SAME JESUS, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in LIKE MANNER AS YE HAVE SEEN HIM GO into heaven.' (Acts 1), and the plain sense makes sense, then why replace that meaning with another?

The only way the plain sense of this passage wouldn't make sense to a reader is if they had some preconceived notions of how Christ would come back again, was conceited OR was an unbeliever OR all of the above.

If this passage is to be taken literally when it says 'This same
Jesus' meaning not Sun Myung Moon or someone else, then it should be taken literally when it says, 'in like manner.'

If the preconceived notions are unsubstantiated then the plain sense of scripture obviously takes precedence over unsubstantiated

If one thinks they have scripture elsewhere that contradicts the
plain sense meaning of this passage in Acts then the next question needs to be, 'Does the sensical plain sense interpretation of another passage contradict the sensical plain sense interpretation of the Acts passage?

The obvious answer is no, because God doesn't contradict Himself.

The scripture is not going to say, 'I'm coming soon' and then 'I'm
going to come later.', unless the timing of the coming was

Christ says soon and therefore some conclude that the plain sense meaning of how he comes cannot be right.

However, what they don't recognize is that Christ also said, 'For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be WISE IN YOUR OWN CONCEITS; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, UNTIL THE FULNESS OF THE GENTILES BE COME IN.' (Romans 11)

The bible interprets itself, so we need to ask why Christ
said 'soon' in one place and then talked about a 'delay' in another.

Since the bible interprets itself, not the Magesterium or Josephus, lets see what it says.

So we can see that Christ made his appearing dependent on Israel's response to his message.

The term 'soon' is a relative term and it is relative to how Israel

I thank God that Israel responded that way because,

'God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.' (Romans 11)

Going back to the formula, we can see that it is conditional.

It says, IF the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense....

Someone recently gave the example of the phrase, 'raining Cats and Dogs', as a statement that cannot be taken literally. They gave this example after I had presented the plain sense formula.

This shows me that they really didn't think through the formula
which said, 'If'.

Does it make literal sense for it to be raining cats and Dogs?

Of course not!, so you are told to 'seek another sense'.

Now the formula also says, 'to replace it', so one could believe
that some kind of coming came after Christ's ascension but they
couldn't REPLACE the SENSICAL PLAIN SENSE MEANING of his returning to the Mount of Olives visibly where 'every eye sees him' with an invisible and allegorical coming. (Revelation 1; Acts 1)

More later

                                               BJ Max