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Christianity Under Fire

Predestination or Free Will
Study In Acts
Jesus In Genesis
Behemoth, Leviathan And Dragons, Oh My!
The Foolish Man's Guide To Confounding The Wise
A Defense of Individual Election unto Salvation & Critique of Absolute Corporate Election?
Group Think Or Whosoever Will Pt. 3
Paul's Purpose At Athens: Becoming All Things To All People
Personhood And Free Will
Scriptures Calvinist's Misinterpret
Resistance Is Futile!
You're a Hopeless Replacement Theologian If You:
Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth
You Know You're a Preterist if: Part 2
Are You Thankful For What You Have?
Top Ten Signs You Are a Fundamentalist Christian?
Getting Involved With Coffeehouse Ministry
A Few of My Projects
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A Year in the Life
Maxwell's Musings
Is the Church, 'The Elect'?
Pope Apologizes For Telling the Truth
Catholic Catechism Paves the Way For Evolution
You Are A Hopeless Liberal If You:
Clean Slate
Three Column Chart
Ultra Dispensationalism: Scriptural or Not?
Group Think or Whosoever Will?
Chronological Chart of New Testament
You Might Be A Closet Dispie If:
Body of Christ versus Israel
The Mark of the Beast: Is it Literal?
You Know You're A Preterist If:
You Know You're a Preterist if: Part Three
The Comings of Christ: The How, When and Where
Groupthink and Cliques in the Church
Focus on the Family or on God
Cult Aware
Open Door Fellowship OR Come As We Are Ministries?
Transubstantiation or Unsubstantiated: If The Plain Sense Makes Sense...
DaVinci Code: Was Christ's Divinity and the Bible invented at the Council of Nicea?
Plain Sense Interpretation/P'shat: Christs Comings
Isaiah 53: Human Sacrifice?
Isaiah 53: Christ Has Risen!!
Who Hath Believed Our Report?
Isaiah 53: Christ Our Passover Lamb
Isaiah 53: Messianic Prophecies Refuted?
Chart comparing Israel to Messiah
Isaiah 53: The Suffering Messiah
Bible Chart: Does the Bible conflict on Salvation Messages?
Christs Coming and Time Gaps
Got Charts!
Are There Two Programs?
When Did the Church Begin?
When Did the Church Begin Pt. 2
Is America Cursed?
How and Why Christianity is Under Fire
Was Mary a Perpetual Virgin?
Tribulation or Jacob's Trouble?
Jewish Wannabes and the Holidays
Christmas Under Fire: When Christians Attack
Is Celebrating Christmas Scriptural?
Was Iraq a Just War?
Category 7: The End of the World
If It Believes, Then Waddles and Quacks like a Christian it is a....
Why Homosexuality Should Be Confronted and Exposed
The Doctrine Of Eternal Security-Can You Lose Your Salvation?
Does the Soul Sleep?
Did Jews Kill Jesus?...Hear What Some Jews Have to Say
Some Unscriptural Teachings of the Catholic Church
Arguments That Catholics Use
Pantribulationism: Are There Two Programs Going On?
Before and After
Pantribulationism: What A Day That Will Be!!!!
Definite Article Theology: The Way
Pantribulationism: Extrabiblical Nonsense
My Old Ship, the USS Shreveport Assisting Hurricane Victims
Pantribulationism: Should I Stay or Should I Go?
Trinity of God and Trichotomy of man: Definite Article Theology
Definite Article Theology
Pantribulationism: Blessed Hope and Glorious Appearing
Pantribulationism: The Departure
Pantribulationism: It will all pan out in the end
Straining Out Gnats, Majoring on the Minors
Jewish Wannabes and Eschaholics
When Jewish Wannabes Attack What They Don't Understand
How Jewish Wannabes Attack and How to Identify Them
Historical Method and Homosexuality
If the Plain Sense Makes Sense: Christ's Coming
If the Plain Sense Makes Sense: Evolution
The Silliness of Jack Chick
Inspirational and Patriotic Songs
Communism and Islam -vs- the Faith of America's Founding Fathers
Bridging the Generation Gap
Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth
Let's Worship the Lord
Faith Under Fire Television Show and Website
Faith Under Fire/Do We Worship the Same God?
Arrogant or Convinced?
Warning Signs of Dispensationalism?
Good News: How To Fight Terrorism
Prophecies Yet To Be Fulfilled: Zechariah 12:10-14
Are You Happy?
When Jewish Wannabes Attack the Bible
Why Jewish Wannabes Attack
The Masters List
You're A Hopeless ....
Preterism Versus Dispensationalism
What's Love Got To Do With It?
When Jewish Wannabes Attack!
Preterism and Calvinism?
Who Do Men Say That I Am?
Signs You Are Doing Something Right
Ivory Tower Theologians and more about me
Satan the Counterfeiter
Saved By Race or By Grace?
Wanna Know Some Secrets?
Distortions of the Resurrection
Apostles Today?
Message and Ministry of Paul compared to the twelve
Maxwell House...Good For Your Desktop
The Feminization of Christianity
Absurd World Views
Religion versus Relationship
The Mysteries Revealed
Replacement Theology
How did the Tribes and Books get Lost?
Catholics, Cliques and Cults
New Age Movement
Should Christians Observe the Sabbath?
The Power of One
Be Thankful
Group Think and the Jew
You Must Be Born Again!!
Tribute to a Friend
Who's That Babe in the Manger: Does it matter
President Bush and the Movie: Unbreakable
Having a Form of Godliness
The Natural Supernatural Connection
Spiritually Challenged Skeptics
Speaking or Praying to the Dead
Eternally Insecure?
The Preterist's False Hope
Apostolic Succession Catholic Style
Predestination or Free Will
The Foolish Confounding the Wise
About Me
Scripture Twisting: Reading into the text
Scripture Twisting: The Figurative Fallacy
So Deep A Child Could Understand
The Apostle Paul
About Us
Requirements For Messiah
Small Groups or the Purpose Driven Church?
Mile High Ministries or Miles Apart Ministries
The Omnipresence and Incarnation of God
Is Jesus the Messiah?
Extrabiblical Nonsense
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Is Baptism necessary for Salvation?
Focus on the Family?
Motherhood, Fatherhood or Discipleship?
The Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses
What is Love
That They May Be One
Suffering Servant
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When we consider the question of free will versus predetermination we need to start at the proper place and that is with God.

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. (1 Timothy 3)

Almost every time we have discussions or debates on spiritual issues, it is related to the mysteries mentioned in the bible and specifically and originally the Incarnation of Christ.

Jesus was God manifested in the flesh.

When Christ did or said something we don't ask whether the divine or human side of him did or said it. We see in Christ ,two natures in ONE person.

Christ holds the atom together and so this dichotomy is going to be present even in the creation.

"for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities--all things were created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and IN HIM ALL THINGS HOLD TOGETHER." (Colossians 1)

This says that 'in christ all things are held together.'

I haven't heard an adequate explanation of what holds an atom together, except that it is a mysterious thing called the Nuclear binding force.

So when considering questions such a predetermination versus free will we should not ask which one but why not both.

It is both with Christ and he lives in us and holds all things together.

This is why 'whenever God and Man meet there is a mystery.' (Jesus Christ the God Man)

Regarding God and man in salvation it says,


"29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the first-born among many brethren."

But it also says, "Whosoever believeth " this is our will either believing or rejecting.


Regarding Sanctification AFTER SALVATION it says, "12 Therefore, MY BELOVED, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; "

However, the next verse says, "13 for God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure."

See the dichotomy?

It is 'our responsibility to respond to His ability.'

Let Go and Let God as the saying goes.

This is just the way things are.

Let's consider what would happen if we believed one side and rejected the other.

If we believed that it was only our wills then we could say that we had something to do with our salvation in addition to simply believing what God resistably revealed to us.

Then we would be prone to believe as Catholics and Cultists do regarding all these hoops we must jump through in order to be saved.

If we believe it is only God's irresistable Grace, we would have a God that sent some to hell that really didn't have a choice in the matter.

If we realize that this mystery somehow involves both sides then we have to by faith accept it.

I don't know whether I can find a proper analogy to demonstrate this point other than Christ himself.

Does the criminal have the power to not commit the crime or are irresistable forces at work?

When I took business Law in college the teacher brought up this guy which they referred to as the Chocodile Man.

It seems that he murdered someone and part of his defense was that he drank too much koolaid and ate too many chocodiles.

Chocodiles are a junk food.

This was many years ago so I think I got most of it right.

I also think he got off.

Once we say that the criminal couldn't help himself then our whole society is in trouble.

Let's also consider what would be the consequenses of believing one over the other.

If we only believed that God predetermined everything then we would be robots incapable of choosing to Love God or man without being predetermined that way. This would be an existence worse than that of an animal. But even in my recognizing the sad state that would be tells me that that is not the way it is.

When we accept the reality that our will's do play a part in it then we have to consider the consequenses of that.

This means that we will have pleasure for making good decisions and suffering for making bad decisions. We also will suffer for other peoples bad decisions. This is exactly the way the world works, so that is the way we should look at it.

People often ask why God allows suffering.

The answer is because he gave you a will and that often results in suffering. To eliminate suffering God would have to make us a bunch of robots that only chose what was good, and that is not good.