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I Don't Think That When Job Referred To The Behemoth And Leviathan That He Was Intending To Prove To The Evolutionist That These Beasts Existed During Man.
 
God's Point Was: "11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine. " (Job 41)
 
God Is To Be Trusted Because He Is Even More Powerful Than Behemoth And Leviathan.
 
These Monsters Only Hold Sway Over Evolutionists And Other Haughty Minded People.
 
"He (Leviathan) beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride." (Job 41:34)
 
"His scales (Leviathan) are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal. 16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them." (Job 41)
 
God Already Has Condemned Those That 'Profess.. themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.' (Romans 1)
 
In Fact God Doesn't Need To Prove That Ostriches Existed Either.
 
It Is Enough For Him To Have Said:
 
"Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth... 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
 
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." (Genesis 1)
 
Before the Death Of Human And Animal, Because Of Sin, Man Was Created The Same Day As The Dinosaur and Was Not Afraid Of Him.
 
In Fact Even From A Secular Perspective, It Is The Evolutionists' Burden To Show That Dinosaurs Existed Millions Of Years Ago.
 
Job Was Probably Speaking Of 'Behemoth' And 'Leviathan' Before The Flood.
 
My Theory, Which Is Better Than The Evolutionist Theory, That Dinosaurs Evolved Into Birds, Is That They May be Partly Made Up Of The Lizard Population We Have Today.
 
But This Is Just A Fun Theory.
 
"Any of various extinct reptiles of the orders Saurischia and Ornithischia that flourished during the Mesozoic Era. Dinosaurs were carnivorous or herbivorous, dwelled mostly on land, and varied from the size of a small dog to the largest land animals that ever lived. One group of dinosaurs evolved into birds. " Dictionary.com
 
The Difference: The Amount Of Time They Lived, Affected By The Flood.
 
If Dinosaurs Can Evolve Into Little Bitty Birds (According To Some Evolutionists) Why Can't They Become Little Bitty Lizards. Notice I Said 'Become' Not Evolve.
 
Since Dinosaurs Were Grouped According To 'bird hipped' And 'Lizard Hipped' Then Why Can't We Consider The Lizard?
 
And What Is The Big Deal About The Dino-Terrible saurs-Lizards Anyhow, Other Than Their Sizes.
 
"Dinosauria was formally named in 1842 by English palaeontologist Richard Owen , who used it to refer to the "distinct tribe or sub-order of Saurian Reptiles" that were then being recognized in England and around the world. The term is derived from the Greek words δεινός (deinos meaning "terrible", "fearsome", or "formidable") and σαύρα (saura meaning "lizard" or "reptile"). Though the taxonomic name has often been interpreted as a reference to dinosaurs' teeth, claws, and other fearsome characteristics, Owen intended it merely to evoke their size and majesty."
 
 
Many Animals Became Extinct.
 
What Warrants Such Attention To The Thunder Lizard Except For The Fact That It Is A Chance For Evolutionists To Produce Their Fairy Tale.
 
The Evolutionist Fairy Tale Is Even Harder To Swallow Than the Spiritual Evolution Of Mormonism.
 
Behemoth, Leviathan And Dragons Oh My!
 
"Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. 16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. 17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. 18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. 19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. 20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. 21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. 22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. 23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. 24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares." (Job 40:15, )
 
I Accept All Translational Descriptions Of This Creature.
 
Evolutionists Only Accept That Which Fits their Preconceived Notions.
 
"Even the hippopotamus doesn’t fit all the facts, as this animal does not have a tail comparable to a cedar tree. However, the description does fit many of the large herbivorous dinosaurs, one type of which certainly was the ‘chief’ (largest) of the created land animals. Such a dinosaur was therefore alive at the time the book of Job was written."
 
 
Leviathan:
 
"Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down? 2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn? 3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee? 4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever? 5 Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens? 6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants? 7 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears? 8 Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more. 9 Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him? 10 None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?
 
11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine. 12 I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion. 13 Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle? 14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about. 15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal. 16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them. 17 They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered. 18 By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. 19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. 20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron. 21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth. 22 In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him. 23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved. 24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone. 25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves. 26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon. 27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood. 28 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble. 29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear. 30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire. 31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment. 32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary. 33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear. 34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride." (Job 41)
 
Its Interesting That Evolutionists Will Accept Millions Of Years And Monsters But Often Not the Monsters Of The bible.
Could Be A Giant Ancestor Of The Crocodile. (Deinosuchus etc.)
 
"Many scholars identify this animal as a crocodile, but as other experts have pointed out, there are several problems with this idea.
 
Although some crocodiles do venture into the coastal areas and can swim out to sea, the deep ocean is not their normal habitat. They are found mainly in inland waters, where they live in lakes, rivers, swamps and estuaries, and breed on the shores. Therefore they would not be described as great beasts of the sea (Psalm 104:25–26) Nor are crocodiles so terrifying that no one dares tackle them—crocodiles are regularly trapped and killed by native tribes with simple technology."
 
 
But What If You Saw A Fifty Foot Croc?
 
Leviathan Could Even Be Satan Manifesting Himself To The Prideful. (Job 1 & 2)
 
Could Even Be A Continuation Of Behemoth In The Previous Chapter.
 
If Satan Can Speak Through A Serpent Then Why Not Leviathan?
 
"A number of ‘sea serpent’ reports describe a large marine animal resembling a crocodile but much larger—15–18 metres (50–60 feet) long—and occurring far out at sea.
 
For example, one sighting of such a creature occurred in the North Atlantic during World War I with the sinking of the British steamer Iberian by the German U-boat U28
 
Some seconds after the Iberian had been torpedoed and sunk, there was an underwater explosion. The submarine commander and some of his officers reported:
‘A little later pieces of wreckage, and among them a gigantic sea-animal, writhing and struggling wildly, were shot out of the water to a height of 60 to 100 feet [18 to 30 metres] …
 
‘We did not have the time to take a photograph, for the animal sank out of sight after 10 or 15 seconds …
 
‘It was about 60 feet [18 metres] long, was like a crocodile in shape and had four limbs with powerful webbed feet and a long tail tapering to a point.’
One of the largest crocodiles ever caught was a 6.15 metre (20 foot) long specimen harpooned in 1960 near Borroloola in Australia’s Northern Territory. This is not even half the size of the monster as described by the U28 commander!"
 
 
Dragons,
 
The Word For Dragons In The Hebrew Has About Three Possible Translations. Only Context Can Tell Us What The Translation Should Be In Each Instance.
 
"Thinking from a biblical foundation, it is easier to make the connection between dinosaurs and dragon legends—if people and dinosaurs once knew each other, we would expect that there would be left-over memories of when people knew of some of the more impressive ones. The many dragon tales from cultures across the world testify to a time when people lived with huge, fierce reptilian creatures, some with horns and armour-plated scales, and some which flew. Such cultural memories of dinosaur-like creatures do not fit the evolutionary idea that the last dinosaur died out 65 million years before the first human appeared, but they do fit with the Bible’s account of history. Evolutionists have to claim that the similarities of dragons to dinosaurs are a mysterious coincidence, since they believe that no man ever saw a dinosaur."
 
 
Komodo Dragon:
 
Fire Breathing: "Many of the stories of mythological dragons may have come from the Komodo Dragon? Their yellow tongues and foul breath gave the impression that they could breathe fire and could be the inspiration for our own stories of fire-breathing dragons.
Komodo Dragons are carnivores, carrion-feeders, and cannibals. They don’t seem to be particularly picky with what they eat, and it is estimated that 10% of a Komodo Dragon’s diet consists of other dragons. They can move very quickly when they need to and are very good swimmers."
 
 
 
Mososaur:
 
"The mystery might have been solved in June 1983, when a carcass was found on Bungalow Beach in Gambia, but was unavailable for analysis by those who tried to identify it It was found and examined by Owen Burham who had no camera, and so was only able to bring back a description and measurements.
 
Working on these, noted zoologist Dr Karl P.N. Shuker short-listed six possible identities. Only one, the Shepherd’s Beaked-whale (Tasmacetus shepherdi), was a creature known to be still living in today’s oceans. However, he considers it as the least likely of them. The other five possibilities were prehistoric marine animals. Two of these bear out the description of the leviathan, and of the creature seen by the U28.
One was the mosasaur, a giant marine version of the monitor lizards, (Komodo Dragons) and the other was a thalattosuchian, a kind of sea-crocodile supposedly extinct for 110 million years! Dr Shuker believes the latter to be the most likely contender. " (Ibid)
 
My Theory Again.
 
Since Some Animals Don't Stop Growing Until They Die, Some Animals could Become Quite Large, Before The Flood.
'In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12 And rain fell on the earth forty days and forty nights.
13 On that very day Noah and his sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth, together with his wife and the wives of his three sons, entered the ark. 14 They had with them every wild animal according to its kind, all livestock according to their kinds, every creature that moves along the ground according to its kind and every bird according to its kind, everything with wings. 15 Pairs of all creatures that have the breath of life in them came to Noah and entered the ark. 16 The animals going in were male and female of every living thing, as God had commanded Noah. Then the Lord shut him in.' (Genesis 7:11).
 
Just A Theory Of Mine About Rain, But man lived Shorter Periods Shortly After The Flood.
 
First Mention Of 'the floodgates of the heavens were opened '
 
Before This, The Bible Says, 'This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created. When the Lord God made the earth and the heavens-- 5 and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no man to work the ground, 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground-- 7 the Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.' (Genesis 2:6)
 
Now God Could Have Made It Rain Right After He Created Man, But No Mention Of It Is Made.
 
Before The Flood, Adam, Methusaleh Live To Be 900+
 
Methusaleh Was 187 When Lamech Was Born.
 
Lamech Was 182 When Noah Was Born.
 
Jared Was 162 When Enoch Was Born.
 
Adam Was 130 Old When Seth Was Born.
 
Seth Was 105 When Enosh Was Born.
 
Enosh Was Ninety When Kenan Was Born.
 
The Descendant Of Shem, One Of The People In The Ark Only Lived To Four Hundred Years Old. (Genesis 11)
 
Noah Was 500 When Shem Was Born.
 
(These Facts Supplied By My Wife, Who Does Numbers.)
 
It Went Down After Noah. After Noah And The Flood The Age Of Man And The Age He Had Children Went Significantly Down.
 
By Genesis Twelve, Abram And Sarah Are Considered Old When Abraham Is One Hundred And Sarah Ninety Years Old. (Genesis 21:5,6)
 
Sarah, Thinks It Impossible To Have Children By Ninety And Laughs At God.
 
Previous To The Flood, People Were having Children At A Couple To Several Hundred Years Old.
 
Previously Man Could Live To Be Nine Hundred Years Old.
 
After The Flood And The Water First Coming From Above Put Into Effect A Decline In Age.
 
This Would Probably Have Affected Animals As Well.
"The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time." (Romans 8)
 
So Did the Flood.
 
So If Man Lived To Long Years Before The Flood, So Did Animals.
 
This Means That Creatures That Never Stopped Growing Until Death Would Grow To Be Quite Large.
 
Possibly To The Size Of Dinosaurs.
 
Now Not All Dinosaurs Are Lizards But Some Creatures That Have Been Called Dinosaurs Were Really Large Lizards.
 
Dinosaur: Thunder Lizard.
 
Though Only A Theory, It Makes More Sense than Millions Of Years And Evolution Still Having To Prove An Eternal Cause For Every Effect.
 
So the Flood And Rain From Above Seems To Have Affected The Age Of Man And Animals, and Animals Wouldn't Grow To Be Of Great Sizes After That.
 
"None Of The Living Reptiles With The Possible Exception Of Snakes, Is As Large As The Largest Extinct Representative Of Its Particular Group. The 2.7-Metre Leatherback Turtle Is Smaller Than The Extinct 3.6-Metre (11.8-foot) Marine Turtle Archelon, And No Modern Crocodile Approaches The Estimated 15-Metre (49-foot) Length Of Phobosuchus. The Komodo Dragon Does Not Compare With The Six Metre (20 Foot) Or More Mosasaur Tylosaurus. Lengths Exceeding 30 Metres (100 Feet) And Weights Of 91,000 Kilograms (200,000 Pounds), Or More May Have Been Achieved By Some Browsing Quadruped Dinosaurs." (Britannica-Reptiles-Macropedia)
 
What Really Separates The Thunder Lizards From The Bitty Lizards Except For Age And Size?
 
The Most Important Point Is Not Whether They Existed During Man, That Is Clear But Who Made them The Same Day And How Mighty He Is.
 
Bj Maxwell
06/25/2007
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