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The following are some messages I wrote earlier at the Christianity Under Fire group.

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The following is the extrabiblical nonsense that the Catholic Church depends on for their version of the truth.

"Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing and move toward the same goal.' Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own 'always, to the close of the age." (Cathechism of the Catholic Church, pg 26, Libreria Editrice Vaticana)

See how they use part of a biblical verse, but then pile a bunch of extrabiblical nonsense on top of it to make their baloney more appealing?

"The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living, teaching office of the Church alone. ...This means that the task of interpretation has been entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of Rome." (Ibid, pg 27)


"It is clear therefore that, in the supremely wise arrangement of God, sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the Magesterium of the Church are so connected and associated that one of them cannot stand without the others. Working together, each in its own way, under the action of the one Holy Spirit, they all contribute effectively to the salvation of souls. (Ibid, pg 29)

"But since Sacred Scripture is inspired, there is another and no less important principle of correct interpretation...'Sacred Scripture must be read and interpreted in the light of the same spirit by whom it was written."

1. "Be especially attentive 'to the content and unity of the whole scripture...

2. Read the scripture within 'the living Tradition of the whole church." (Ibid, pg 32)...


Their traditions have contradicted the Word of God and if fact makes it very difficult to communicate to them. As if in a cult, unless you demonstrate to them that the Bible stands alone as our source of truth you are wasting your time.

They believe in the virgin birth of Christ, but need to come up with the Immaculate Conception of Mary (not Jesus)to explain how Christ could be born of Mary but without sin.

They have an elaborate system that one has to get through before they are acceptable to Christ: Purgatory...

They accomplish this by taking half an idea from the bible then making a transition to their tradition to come up with the other half. This is bait and switch at its worst. If they had only stayed with the Bible they could have gotten the whole truth, nothing but
the truth....God help us!!

"And the Pharisees and the scribes ask him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with defiled hands? 6 And he said unto them, Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth me with their lips, But their heart is far from me. 7 But in vain do they worship me, Teaching [as their] doctrines the precepts of men.
8 Ye leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men." (Mark 7)

BJ Max

 
The True Church
 
Concerning the true church we need to look at what the whole bible says concerning the church, not just Matthew Sixteen.

"For He Himself is our peace, who has made BOTH ONE, and has BROKEN DOWN the middle wall of SEPARATION, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to CREATE IN HIMSELF ONE NEW MAN FROM THE TWO, thus making peace, 16 and that He might RECONCILE THEM BOTH TO GOD
IN ONE BODY through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity.
17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. 19 Now, therefore, you are NO LONGER STRANGERS
and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 having been built on the foundation of the APOSTLES AND PROPHETS, JESUS CHRIST Himself being the chief corner stone, 21 in whom the whole building, being JOINED TOGETHER, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being BUILT
TOGETHER for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit This is another mystery that is talked about in the scriptures.

Whenever the Bible speaks of Mystery it involves a union of some kind. The foundational mystery is Christ himself. See previous messages.

The Church here is not just built on Peter, it is built on the apostles and prophets with Christ as the chief cornerstone. (Ephesians 2)

Notice in the verses above how many phrases have to do with a union of some kind.

Here it is:

Christ, the God Man (Mystery):

'who has made BOTH ONE'

'BROKEN DOWN the middle wall of SEPARATION'

'abolished in His flesh the enmity'

'to CREATE IN HIMSELF ONE NEW MAN FROM THE TWO'

'RECONCILE THEM BOTH TO GOD IN ONE BODY through the cross'

'putting to death the enmity'

'NO LONGER STRANGERS and foreigners'

'foundation of the APOSTLES AND PROPHETS, JESUS CHRIST Himself being the chief corner stone'

'in whom the whole building, being JOINED TOGETHER'

'in whom you also are being BUILT TOGETHER for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit'

There is so much more than Peter and the Jews involved here!!!

"For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones.
31 "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be JOINED TO HIS WIFE, and the TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH." 32 This is A GREAT MYSTERY, but I speak concerning CHRIST AND THE
CHURCH. 33
Nevertheless let
each one of you in particular so LOVE his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
(Ephesians 5)
 
Now to build on the previous message by the same name I would like
                                    to build on the only legitimate foundation that can be built upon
                                    and that is Christ (1 Corinthians 3:11) He is the foundational
                                    mystery and rock that we need to build everything else on. Christ is
                                    the chief cornerstone, with the apostles (plural) and prophets also
                                    being a part of the foundation (Ephesians 2:19,20)
                                    
                                    When we read the gospel accounts about Christ performing miracles,
                                    sweating great drops of blood, or even weeping we normally do not
                                    ask which part of Christ is doing the weeping or sweating the great
                                    drops of blood. We believe that Christ has two natures but is one
                                    person, who is both God and Man.
                                    
                                    So wouldn't it be logical that when we receive Christ, that a
                                    similar dichotomy occurs in us.
                                    
                                    I am not saying that we are God in the flesh but that God resides in
                                    our flesh.
                                    
                                    We cannot then claim omnipotence, omniscience or omnipresence and we
                                    cannot claim to preexist as God the Word did prior to the
                                    incarnation. (John 1:1-3,12,14) We simply have God in us. This is a
                                    mystery/union.
                                    
                                    A dichotomy is at work in our daily lives. This is why in Timothy it
                                    says, 'and, WITHOUT CONTROVERSY great is the MYSTERY of godliness,
                                    which began with Christ and continues with us in our walk with Him.
                                    (1 Timothy 3:16)
                                    
                                    This is why you can have the following verses one after the other:
                                    
                                    "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my
                                    presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN
                                    SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING; 13 FOR IT IS GOD WHO WORKS IN YOU
                                    both to will and to do for His good pleasure." (Philippians 2:12,13)
                                    
                                    This is not a contradiction here. Why would the author put two
                                    seemingly contradictory statements one after the other, unless they
                                    are not contradictions but paradoxes or mysteries, if you will, or
                                    better yet, a mystery of godliness.
                                    
                                    How can we work out our own salvation, but yet it is still God in us
                                    that is creating the desire and even fulfilling it through us?
                                    
                                    This is where many groups get mixed up or make a major mistake by
                                    putting the cart before the horse or by stating one and neglecting
                                    the other.
                                    
                                    The apostle Paul here is the one that has brought out these
                                    mysteries like no one before him. Not even the apostle Peter spoke
                                    of these mysteries like the apostle Paul.
                                    
                                    This is where Calvinists and Free willers get tripped up, by
                                    believing one and rejecting the other.
                                    
                                    This is also one place that the Catholics and Protestants get
                                    tripped up.
                                    
                                    The mysteries, starting with Christ always involve a union of some
                                    kind:
                                    
                                    'Whenever God and Man meet, there is mystery' (Jesus Christ the God
                                    man pg.?)
                                    
                                    Christ= God and Man (1 Timothy 3:16)
                                    Christ and the Church (Ephesians 5:32)
                                    Godliness (Ibid, Galatians 5:6)
                                    Christ in Us (Colossians 1:27)
                                    Jew and Gentile (Romans 11:25)
                                    
                                    These are all called mysteries but this does not mean that we cannot
                                    know what comes before the other. We also know that both sides are
                                    connected somehow.
                                    
                                    The apostle Paul who clarified these mysteries would be one of the
                                    persons that could explain the mystery of godliness and what comes
                                    first, the result and what comes next.
                                    
                                    In Ephesians Paul (the neglected apostle) says, "For by grace you
                                    have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the
                                    gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are
                                    His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God
                                    prepared beforehand that we should walk in them." (Ephesians 2:8-10)
                                    
                                    Notice that Grace comes first then faith, then salvation, then good
                                    works that God prepared beforehand for us to do.
                                    
                                    So we can see the clear biblical order here for salvation: Grace and
                                    Faith (objective)in Christ, Then we are saved and then we do the
                                    works that God has worked in us as New Creations to do.
                                    
                                    "the MYSTERY which has been hidden from ages and from generations,
                                    but now has been revealed to His saints. 27 To them God willed to
                                    make known what are the riches of the glory of this MYSTERY among
                                    the Gentiles: WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory.
                                    
                                    Notice the union involved in this mystery?
                                    
                                    
                                    So the salvation that Philippians chapter two is talking about is
                                    sanctification, that happens during our walk with Christ, not
                                    Justification that happens when we believe. This is an important
                                    point.
                                    
                                    This is an important point that only those that believe the whole
                                    counsel of God can grasp.
                                    
                                    Once we are saved by Grace through faith in Christ, faith worketh by
                                    love in our sanctification (Galatians 5:6)
                                    
                                    "For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I
                                    know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known. 13 And
                                    now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these
                                    is love. (1 Corinthians 13)
Now I have been told by Catholics
                                    that I need to thank the Catholic Church for the Bible I have today. 
I thought God could use even stones
                                    to do his work, if He wanted to but here goes.
I want to thank the Catholic Church
                                    for the Bible we have today, and the Jews for the O.T. scriptures and finally I want to thank Balaam's Ass for letting God
                                    speak through him. (Numbers 22)

                                    
BJ Max

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