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The Ultimate Question Is Who Are You Following?
 
Are You Of Calvin, Luther, Zwingli Or The Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 1;3)
 
Are You Reading God's Word Or The Works Of Those That Murdered Individuals That Didn't Buy Into Their Clique Theology.
 
Are You Guilty Of Groupthink Or Are You Following The One Who Destroyed Group Think Before And After Salvation, So That He Could Have Mercy On All? (Romans 1-3; Ephesians 2; Romans 11:32)

The Comparisons Below Are Understood By Knowing The Differences Between Heavenly Things At The Top Of this Message And The O.T. And More Earthly Things At The Bottom, With The Line Of Demarcation And Reference Point Being The 'Body Of Christ', Represented By The Triangular Chart, And Earthbound Israel Below It.
 
Whosoever Will
 
 
Individual (One)
 
"so they too have
now become disobedient in order that they too
may now receive mercy
as a result of God's
 mercy to you. 32 For
 God has bound all
 men over to disobedience so that he may have
 mercy on them all.
33 Oh, the depth of
the riches of the wisdom
 and knowledge of God!
How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths
 beyond tracing out!"
 (Romans 11) 
 
This Chapter Shows That
 God's Declaring All Sinners
 And Disobedient, As They
 Are Is 'In Order' And
'So That' He Might
Have Mercy On All.
 
God's Mercy And Death
For All (Unlimited Atonement)
 Is Directly Connected And
 A Result Of All Being
Sinners.
 
It Is Now 'Whosoever Will'.
 
Calvinists Are Deluded Because They Believe All Are Sinners But That God Only Showed Mercy To Some.
 
These Truths Are Connected.
 
Romans 1:16: "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
 
Romans 1-3 Is Transitional.
 
Romans 1 And 2 Use The Phrase 'Jew First' (Romans 1:16; 2:9,10)-Group Think And Preference, But By The Time Universal Sinfulness Is Established The Jew Is No Longer First, And 'Jew First' Is Not Mentioned In Chapter Three.
 
"Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. .. 21 But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,  " (Romans 3:19ff)
 
This Book Goes From Group Think (Romans 1:6ff; 2:9,10), To All Are Sinners, And 'To All Who Believe.
 
What Purpose Would There Be In Going From Group Think To Group Think.
 
But That Is What Calvinists Think.
 
They Somehow Miss The Connection That Paul Made Between 'God Has Concluded All In Unbelief',  'You (Jews) Have Judged Yourselves Unworthy Of Everlasting Life', 'every mouth may be silenced'  WITH 'so that he may have mercy on them all ', 'But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference' AND 'we now turn to the Gentiles.'
 
The Apostle Paul Went From Group Think And Preference To Whosoever Will When He Was Preaching To Jews First In Antioch Of Pisidia.
 
"45 When the Jews saw the crowds, they were filled with jealousy and talked abusively against what Paul was saying. 46 Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: "We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles. 47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us: "'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'" 48 When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed." (Acts 13)
 
Paul Didn't Go From Group Think and Preference (Jew First), To Calvinism, He Went From Group Think To 'Whosoever Will.'
 
Other Verses Regarding All:
 
(2 Cor. 5:14-17; Acts 17:30,31; 2 Peter 3:9)
 

"For Christ's love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. 15 And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.

 (2 Cor. 5:14-17)

Then We Became One In Guilt-Same Level (Romans 1-3), Now We Are One In Christ As Individual Members Of The Body Of Christ.
 
Mystery
 
Two Become One
 
"without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." (1 Timothy 3:16)
 
"And he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, 10 to be put into effect when the times will have reached their fulfillment- (Luke 21:20-24; Romans 11:24-32)-to bring all things in heaven and on earth together under one head, even Christ." (Ephesians 1)
Here His Will Is Not About Irresistably Saving Some And Damning The Rest, But To Give Everyone, Including Gentiles An Opportunity To Be Saved.
 
One Need Not Exegete What Is Plain.
 
These Verses Involve Two Becoming One (God Manifested In The Flesh), And The Gentiles Being Brought Together With The Jew. ...Two Becoming One New Man.
 
"The Mystery Concerns A Body, One Living Organism With Many Individual Members, Not Groups (1 Cor. 12:27; Ephesians 4:12-16)
 
"The Mystery Involves Individuals-One (Romans 10:12,13; Ephesians 2:13-18)
 
The Body Chosen Before The World Began But 'Kept Secret Since The World Began' (Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11; 3:5-9)
 
Note: This Is Not Predestination Because It Was 'The Body' That Was Kept Secret And Chosen Before.
 
'The body given a position in heaven, Not On Earth Like Israel.
(Eph. 1:3, 2:5-6, Col. 3:1-3).
 
Christ its living Head (Not King)
(Eph. 5:32; Eph. 1:19-23, Col. 1:18).
 
Jew and Gentile placed on the same level before God (Rom. 10:12, 11:32, Eph. 2: 16,17).
 

"and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near." (Eph. 2)

 
The Gentiles blessed through Israel's obstinacy
(Acts 13:44-46, Rom. 11:28-32).
 
The Gentiles blessed through Israel's fall 
(Acts 28:27,28, Rom. 11:11,12,15).
 
The mystery concerns 
"all spiritual blessings in the heavenlies" 
(Eph. 1:3, Col. 3:1-3).
 
The mystery explains
Christ's present absence from the earth
(Eph. 1:20-23, Col. 3:1-3).
 
The mystery revealed through one man:
Paul
(Gal. 1:1,11,12, 2:2,7,9
 
Jesus coming FOR His Church/Body. John 14:1-3, 1 Thess 4:14-17
 
Caught up with Him in the air 1 Thess 4:13-18
 
Christians taken first, unbelievers are left behind. 1 Thess 4:13-18
 
Purpose: To present the Church to Himself and to the Father (in heaven) 2 Cor 11:2, Rev. 19:6-9
 
Happens in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye (too fast for eyes to see) 1 Cor 15:52
 
Only Christians will see Him (In the Air) 1 John 3:2, 1 Cor 15:52
 
Can happen at any time-Not Related To Prophecy Where One Can Calculate. Rev 3:3, 1 Thess 5:4-6
 
For the Church only (those in Christ) 1 Thess 4:14-17
 
A message of hope and comfort 1 Thess 4:18, Titus 2:13, 1 John 3:3'
 
The Statements, In Quotation Marks In The Right Column Are A Modification, Correction And Combination From Here, And Here.
 
The Term 'Now' Is Used In Contrast To Then Throughout Paul's Writings.  
 
"But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.

14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two (Groups), thus making peace, 16 and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. ...18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit." (Ephesians 2)

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Mysteries
Two Groups Become One -Individual
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Separation Of Jew And Gentile, All On Same Level,
Made Flesh-Earthy
This Or That Group

Group Think:
 
2. the lack of individual creativity, or of a sense of personal responsibility, that is sometimes characteristic of group intereaction." Group Think-Dictionary.com
 
Irving Janis Gave Eight Symptoms Of GroupThink:
 
Illusion Of Invulnerability:
 
Unquestioned Belief In The Inherent Morality Of The Group:
 
Collective Rationalization Of Group's Decisions:
 
Shared Stereotypes Of Outgroup, Particularly Opponents:
 
Self-Censorship; Members Withhold Criticisms:
 
Illusion Of Unanimity:
 
Direct Pressure On Dissenters To Conform:
 
Self Appointed 'Mindguards Protect The Group From Negative Information:
 
Irving Janis
 
It Is Not Difficult To Find Multitudes Of Examples Of Jews And Modern Day Stoics/Fatalists Like Luther, Zwingli, And Calvin Exhibiting GroupThink Leading To The Murder Of Individuals.
 
In Fact Each Of These Theologians/Mass Murderers And The Councils They Influenced Exhibited All Eight Points Of GroupThink And More.
 
"The Sun Has Never Shone On A More Bloodthirsty And Vengeful People Than They Are Who Imagine That They Are God's People Who Have Been Commissioned And Commanded To Murder And To Slay The Gentiles. (Martin Luther, The Jews And Their Lies.)
 
Truth, Is Luther's Description Of The Jews Also Described Him And His Partners In Crime's In The Future, And He Gives A Clue In The Quote Above As To Why They Did It.
 
It Seems That The Ones Predestined To Judgment Are Those That Predetermine That They Are Going To Follow Or Lead The Mob, Rather Than The Plain Words Of God.
 
Jews:
 
"I know you are Abraham's descendants. Yet you are ready to kill me, because you have no room for my word.

'Abraham is our father,' they answered. 'If you were Abraham's children,' said Jesus, 'then you would do the things Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the things your own father does.' ...44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him." (John 8)

'You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth '

If We Apply Christ's Words To The Calvinist Reformers Mentioned Above, We See That They 'Are Of Their Father Their Devil' Because Of Their Dastardly Deeds.

So What Does that Say Of Their Followers Who Still Admire Them And Read Their Books?

Calvinists:
 
"Luther Speaking Of Rebellious Peasants Of His Day Says:  

"Let All Who Are Able, Cut Them Down, Slaughter And Stab Them, Openly Or In Secret, And Remember That There Is Nothing More Poisonous, Noxious And Utterly Devlish Than A Rebel."

You Mean Like A Rebel/Protest-Ant?

 (Martin Luther)

 
Also Confirmed Here.
 
Also Check Out My Message Here About Martin Luther's Pamphlet, 'The Jews And Their Lies'.

Jews:

"And they said many other insulting things to him. 66 At daybreak the council of the elders of the people, both the chief priests and teachers of the law, met together, and Jesus was led before them.

1 Then the whole assembly rose and led him off to Pilate. 2 And they began to accuse him, saying, "We have found this man subverting our nation. He opposes payment of taxes to Caesar and claims to be Christ, a king." ... Luke 22 And 23

"Zwingli (1484–1531)...He became a Reformer independently of Luther, with whom he agreed concerning justification by faith and predestination, but with whom he disagreed concerning the rite of communion."

More Here

"...particular hatred was reserved for Anabaptists. From 1525 Zwingli persecuted them mercilessly with imprisonment, torture, banishment and death. The Anabaptist leader, Felix Manz, was drowned. Under Zwingli's influence, penalties of drowning, burning or beheading were decreed by the Council.

'It is our will,' they proclaimed, 'that wherever they be found, whether singly or in companies, they shall be drowned to death, and that none of them shall be spared."

(Zwingli)

Also Confirmed Here

On 7 March 1526, the Zürich council had passed an edict that made adult re-baptism punishable by drowning. On 5 January 1527, Felix Manz became the first casualty of the edict, and the first Swiss Anabaptist to be martyred at the hands of other Protestants. While Manz stated that he wished "to bring together those who were willing to accept Christ, obey the Word, and follow in His footsteps, to unite with these by baptism, and to leave the rest in their present conviction", Zwingli and the council accused him of obstinately refusing "to recede from his error and caprice". At 3:00 p.m., as he was led from the Wellenburg to a boat, he praised God and preached to the people. A Reformed priest went along, seeking to silence him, and hoping to give him an opportunity to recant. Manz' brother and mother encouraged him to stand firm and suffer for Jesus' sake. He was taken by boat onto the River Limmat. His hands were bound and pulled behind his knees and a pole was placed between them. He was executed by drowning in Lake Zürich on the Limmat. His alleged last words were, "Into thy hands, O God, I commend my spirit." His property was confiscated by government of Zürich, and he was buried in the St. Jakobs cemetery."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Manz

 

"John Calvin Condemned And Endorsed the Burning Of A Man, Servetus At The Stake For Disagreeing With Him Doctrinally. (October, 27,1553) " (Calvin)

(Why I'm Not A Calvinist, Pastor Al Hughes)

"Whoever Shall Now Contend That It Is Unjust to Put Heretics And Blasphemers To Death Will Knowingly And Willingly Incur Their Guilt." (Calvin)

"The Decision Of The Synod Of Dort Ruled In Favor Of the Doctrines Of Calvinism Because The Calvinist Has 'Fixed' The Outcome Beforehand. ...After The Decision Was Rendered The Calvinists Proceeded To Murder The Supporters Of Arminius (Free Willers) In True Fashion To The Mass Murderer They Followed."

(ApostasyRevealed.com)

 

How Anyone Who Calls Themself A Believer Can Claim To Follow These Theologians/Mass Murderers Is Beyond Me.

We Have Christians That Even Call Themselves 'Calvinists' Or 'Lutherans'.

Which Brings Me To Another  Symptom Of Group Think.

"My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ." 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?" (1 Corinthians 1)

The Only Difference In What Denominationists Are Doing Today Is The Ones That They Are Following.

Now, They Follow Peter (Peterism-Catholicism), Calvin (Calvinism), Or Lutheranism (Luther), And The Last Two Are Muderers Controlled By Group Think That:

"Imagine That They Are God's People Who Have Been Commissioned And Commanded To Murder And To Slay The Gentiles." Or Heathen (Martin Luther, The Jews And Their Lies.) 

The Only Difference Here Is That Luther, Zwingli And Calvin Were Doing It To Other Christians, Including Free Willers And Using Group Think To Control Their Councils.

"Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly--mere infants in Christ. 2 I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. 3 You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere men? 4 For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," are you not mere men?" (1 Cor. 3)

Concerning Those That Think They Are The Chosen Ones.

They Brag Of Being Followers Of This Rabbi (Hillel, Gamaliel) Or That Rabbi, This Theologian Or That Theologian/Mass Murderer, This  Author Or That Longwinded Author, Spend Ninety Percent Of Their Energy Promoting Extrabiblical Nonsense That Waters Down The Plain Sense Of Scripture And Then Look Down On Those That Don't Hang Out In The Same Cemetaries Or Don't Read The Same Books They Do, Which By The Way Isn't The bible.

Speaking Of The Ones That The Groupthinkers Hate:

"When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished and they took note that these men had been with Jesus." (Acts 4) 

 

B.J. Maxwell

05/18/2007

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Prophecy:
 
Concerns Nations/Groups/Israel  ON EARTH (Isaiah :4; Ezekiel 37:1,2)
 
Concerns Christ's Coming to Earth. (Zechariah 14:4; Isaiah 59:20)
 
Jesus' Feet Touch The Earth. (Zechariah 14:4; Acts 1:11)
 
Every Eye Shall See Him From Earth. (Revelation 1:7; Zechariah 12:10; Matthew 24:30)
 
For Redeemed Israel And Gentiles (Romans 11:25-32; Matthew 25:31-46)
 
This Program Promoted By Twelve. (Luke 22:30; Galatians 2:8,9; Matthew 10:5ff; Acts 1:6-8; Acts 3:19-26)
 
Jesus Coming From Above, With His Church (Body Of Christ)-Zechariah 14:5, Jude 14; Revelation 19:14
 
The Ones Taken In In Matthew 24, Are The Wicked While the Ones Left Behind Are The Tribulation Saints.
Compare To Noahs Account Where, The 'Taken' Ones Are The Wicked. (Matthew 24:36ff)
 
About Judgment And War On Earth And an Earthly Kingdom (Organization) Not As The Body Of Christ (Organization), Above. (Ephesians 5:32; Zechariah 8:23; Jude 14,15; Zechariah 14:3,4; Rev. 19:11-20; Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:10; Jeremiah 23:5)
 
The Jew Is Primary Here and Gentiles Are Blessed Through Them:
 
(Zechariah 8:13,22,23; Isaiah 60:10-12; Isaiah 61:6; Genesis 22:17,18)
 

"And many peoples and powerful nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the Lord Almighty and to entreat him." 23 This is what the Lord Almighty says: "In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, 'Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.'" (Zechariah 8)

 
Christ Is Its King, Not Head. (Isaiah 9:6,7)
 

 
 
 
The Text In '' InThe Right Columns Of This Message Are A Modification, Correction From Here And Here